| It seems the Arab is non convertable . He doesn't believe in the real Islam but he believes in his dreamy Islam. Another Articl for reading about them "A Call for Psychodialysers
'Would we have cared or objected to what Muslims believed in or not had they not stirred in us emotions like fear, disapproval as well as a number of other negative emotions? It is a natural human attribute that when an agent constitutes threat, one tries to examine it closely to learn about it so as to avoid or neutralise it. Fear is an exacting emotion and in the long run it ruins lives. When the agent is another human we can have additional levers in our hands, namely, trying to understand and reason to reach settlement. The Islamic point of view is not subject for negotiating. The Quran is the words of Allah and they have no choice but to follow its dictates. It is these dictates that are the threat, not only to non-Muslims but Muslims themselves as well. Where does this leave us? Thinking long and hard, you come to inescapable conclusion: Those who believe in Islam need psychological therapies rather than rational discussions or for that matter democratic processes' (Unknown Author).
- I could not find out who wrote the above idea. Still, it has given me an idea. There are no psychiatrists or psychotherapists for Muslims, nor are there schools and university departments to train us to do the job. So why not to step into the void? I am an amateur psychotherapist. The fun side of this is that an amateur can expect anything to happen to himself or herself or to happen to the clients, although so far I have not managed to send either myself nor anyone else to a psychiatric hospital, which may explain my low status among the practitioners of this trade. However, you should not be disheartened. And do not be intimidated by the 1.5 billion Muslims. That is not a bane but a boon. It means a 1.5 billion potential clientele, if you play your cards well.
All what you need is to take account of the following. Firstly, prepare yourself for a standard metamorphoses – no worries, it is a piece of cake. Secondly, provide some theoretical and practical guidance so that other lucky would be amateur volunteers can join in – even this is easy. Thirdly, experiment with the ideas and make the needed changes. Fortunately, with the situation, as bad as it is, nothing can make it worse. So you can make as many mistakes as you can and this means it is easy. Most importantly though is that we have got good advice available to us. A friend of mine who is very knowledgeable in psychology and expectedly a former inmate of psychiatric hospitals, told me all the tricks of the trade. So thanks to him I have the complete knowledge of psychodialysis, which was co-authored first by the great ancient psycho-philosophers Alberto Freud and Simone Einstein then modified by my friend. My friend is a hermit who does not like fame and fortune and this is the reason that he does not let me disclose his identity. The first step of psychodialysis is: 'suspend disbelief!' This is a major step of Freud's psychodialyses and it is perfectly suitable for Muslims. The difference between rational approach, which relies on discussion and reasoning with the opposition, and psychodialysis, is that with the psychodialysis you dive right away into the worldviews, bypassing all the nonsensical waffle. But be prepared, in the Islamic world you will meet Allah, Shaitan or Satan, Jin, Angels, Muslims and non-Muslims, and other living organisms. The second step: be biased in favour of your clients rather than their foes, because they are of course your paymasters, unless you want to lose your earning. This means that we should try to understand the difficulties that are faced by Muslims in their own world. Thirdly, for understandable reasons, space out your services over many sessions rather than finishing it in one go! It does not make economic sense, does it? Accordingly, my examination of the Islamic worldview and its inhabitants will take the form of a series of articles. You must also know that working with difficult psychological conditions would leave you with psychological difficulties. This explains why psychiatrists and psychotherapists are themselves never normal. In regard to working with Islam, one obvious pitfall is that suspending disbelief involves some taking risk to be infected by Islam itself. You may also get a spooky feeling that comes on with entering a world created by thoughts and imagination. So if you decided to join in with me and enter the Islamic world, repeat some reassuring sentences to yourself like prayers before and after each session. 'Suspending disbelief does not mean believing. The Islamic worldview is a fiction and unscientific at that. There are loads of incoherence in Islam. I will find all the incoherence and prevent myself slipping irreversibly into the Islamic world. The Islamic worldview is only Un-Sci-Qu-Cha-Fi. Un-Sci-Qu-Cha-Fi stands for unscientific-qualitatively-challenged-fiction, as opposed to Sci-Fi.' I guess that you think that I have contradicted myself. If you do, so what. Is there anyone who does not contradict himself, so beat it please! Now is time for the fourth step. One of the major achievements of the past few years is that computers were able to persuade the Avatars, who were Hindu gods and goddesses in the past, to come and live inside the computers and allow computer to metamorphose themselves into avatars. What we need though is a kind of avatar that lives outside the computer as well. Call your avatar therefore a hypothelian, the native of the land of Hypothesis. This does not mean that avatars are not real; they are real but they live in the land of imagination. Moreover, it is better to call your avatar a hypothelian because as soon as you notice it is getting out of hand you can shoot it and create another one. Finally, sending a hypothelian as your agent is always better, because your hypothelian will see the world with a fresh eye which sees familiar things differently. Although there is a downside to this in that a hypothelian may get stuck on subjects that you may not consider as important, but how would you know what is better for you, Allah knows that. Hello, I want to let you know that there was a successful metamorphosis and hey presto I, the Hypothelian, am here to give you my first report. Of course, it is obvious to me that I am a major breakthrough in human history, although I realise it is not as obvious to you but things will gradually be explained.
Report on Psychodialysing on Islam and Muslims
The story of Islam begins with the Creator called Allah. He is very strong and powerful. You have seen nothing like Him: Just one word from Him and something can pop up out of nothing. When 'He has decreed a matter He only says to it "Be," and it is' (19:35). He is also so compassionate, merciful and omniscient you cannot imagine. However, before you entertain those rosy dreams of a patch of heaven and its crew of virgins, I would let you know that Allah, as a matter of fact, runs those jumbo size infernos and torture fields (as opposed to torture chambers which must be too small for the purpose), where he grills numerous nations and not just few individuals for eternity. Does Allah have a sense of smell? If so how can He stand the perpetual stench of burning flesh? Does He use air fresheners? Or does he just hold his nose? These questions are not my concern for the time being. There are some duties Allah set for us. These include worshiping Him by doing our prayers to Him, which involves the uncomfortable kneeling and prostrating and raising the bottoms to the air, acknowledging Him as the only God; and visiting His house in Mecca if we are fortunate and able to do so. I could not find out exactly why Allah wants praising, worshipping and prostrating for Him. You might say that Allah is behaving like an alpha male who wants everyone supplicating and prostrating for Him to message His ego. This prostrating business is particularly indignifying. You lift up you bottom to the sky in the public to towards Him. What does Allah wants from that? Is there some kinds of perversion going on here? How that does fit with mercifulness and compassion? But shame on you, do not have such a dirty mind! Muslims know better because they know Allah inside out and they report no suspicious activities. But what about the spiritual feeling, which Muslim say, enters their whole being? Is it spiritual or is it something else? Muslims say whatever Allah does to you is good. He is all wise and knows why he does what He does. Allah's main enemies are those who do not believe in Him. In His Quran (4.48), He is clear on this: 'Verily, Allah does not forgive that anyone should set up partners with Him, but forgives everything other than that to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with Allah, has indeed invented a tremendous sin.' You can call those who do not believe in Allah as infidels, atheists, ingrates, those whose hearts are tainted and diseased, evil-doers, hypocrites, apes and monkeys, enemies of Allah, the subjects of Allah's wrath, kafir, ignorant, etc. Amazingly, even these unbelievers are created by HIM, Allah and no one else. However, the problem is that these ingrates deny that simple and obvious fact, which is what gets Allah's goat. Why should Allah create such a nuisance for Himself in the first place? Is this another incoherence? Do not be so sure. Right after the creation of Adam, there was some conflict between Allah and Shaitan and all those troubles started from there. But why did He allow Shaitan to do all this mischief? This is another mystery. I do not know why the Kafirs do not want the spiritual feeling which Allah giveth to the Muslims. However, what makes the problem even more complicated is that these Kafirs do not shut up. 'How can one be merciful and then burn his enemies, why does not he just try to give them love?', they say. Perhaps, embarrassed to say what really frightens them, they keep hammering nauseatingly on the point of the alleged contradictions in Allah characters; that He is merciful but He burns His enemies. They think they need to knock on this point only a few more times and the whole Islamic structure will crumble down. They say 'these characteristics of Allah may cause us something they call cognitive dissonance (another jargon from psychodialysis, although they use it in the wrong way). The say cognitive dissonance is 'an affliction which makes you walk half-stunned and asking yourselves all sorts of existential questions: 'What is the point of being created? What are we supposed to be? What does running infernos by the Complete Merciful One tell you about the Complete Merciful One?' 'Shut up' the believers say, 'These questions are only in your head. In reality there are no such questions. Any way there are more pressing issues.' Well done, Muslims! Now, I must now introduce Muslims to you. They say humans are Homo sapiens. I am not sure if Muslims agree that they are Homo sapiens. Homo sapiens is just a species of animal which, they say, evolved from monkeys, which explains why it is the same family of apes and monkeys. Muslims, on the other hand insist that they are descended from Adam who was created from Clay in heaven by Allah. But these matters are trivial any way. The important matter is to remember that Muslims are the beloved of Allah. Allah said this clearly in His Quran: 'Ye are the best community [in Arabic my hermit friend tells me the Quran says nation and not community, so the translators are cheating us a bit, but all is for the good cause] that hath been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers' (3.110). Muslims can come in two sexes only. There are no Homos. They are Haram: Forbidden, point. Muslims come either male, who are called Muslims, or females, who are called Muslimas. The Muslims are superior to Muslimas. Muslims prefer to wear long robes. They prefer having beards but they should shave the moustaches, because Moustaches are not very clean. Robes are better for Muslims because they clean themselves, especially their bottom side, very often. At least five times a day, to be precise. Some Muslims and Muslimas actually cheat on that. They think they can get away with it, but Allah is all knowing and awake without using any Modifanil anti-sleeping tablets. That is why Muslims would have bad consciences consequently. 'Oh, Muslims and Muslimas do not cheat on washing. Know your duties! You know you must wash even if you break wind! Allah, is definitely, all smelling with an important nose. As soon as you break wind, He will start watching you to see if you go to washing before you approach your prayers. Allah wants the bottom side clean when you ask for His spiritual feeling' (00001.00001, the Hypothelian Quran). Some infidels are impressed by Muslims' concern with cleanliness. They admire the Muslims and Muslimas in secret. However, they rarely confess their admiration because they are mean spirited and there is a disease in their hearts. Any way Muslims say that the Western government tell the Kafir Westerners not to admire the superiority of Muslim. Obviously, the Western governments and peoples are in the wrong. This washing is really a life-saver considering that Muslims are always outraged and fuming, so cleanliness saves them from unwelcomed smells – 'the Westerners do not know what is good for them, but Allah knows and He is all wise and merciful' (The Hypothelian Quran, 00001.00002). The downside of being infidel is being an undignified and irritating nitpicker. Despite the many benefits of ablution by the Muslims for the Kafirs and Muslims alike, the Kafirs raise objections: 'But,' they say, 'ablution means spending a lot of water and think about the drought. However, on balance, they admit it is still better to sacrifice the water. They say 'considering the fuming issue and the potential smell, ablution is ok. 'But' [Their buts never stop! May Allah obliterate the but words from their vocabularies and from the face of the earth], 'should not the government tell Muslims that they should be aware of the trail of dripping water behind them when they wash their bottoms, especially in the office and workplace. One Sikh man fell and broke his leg. The Muslims community did not own up and denied that he slipped on water dripping from the bottoms the believers. That accident caused a lot of intercommunal tensions in South East Asia. 'Liars, who saw that Sikh man broken leg? In any case, Allah must have had some wisdom in what He brought on the head or the leg of Sikh person, but (this but is alright) our inferior intelligence cannot comprehend everything.' But [The italicized but is alright] is this not very embarrassing and intrusive? How should anyone talk about such a private issue like this? 'Give me a break with this water dripping from'... Do not you feel ashamed of yourself? Is it possible to go to gentlemen or gentlewomen who want to stand in Allah's presence and say: 'Mate have you checked that water is not dripping from...?' It is just inappropriate mate! However, the cheekiness of the infidels knows no bounds. They keep returning to the ablution, as if they found a weak link. What about a Muslim Eskimo's ablution? Imagine baring the feet and bottom at least five times a day and rubbing them with snow. They will get frost bite in the bottom and before long all Eskimos will have gone. Think about other health complications. Many infidel doctors complain that Muslims and Muslimas are always coming with fungal infections in the groin area and each time one comes they go through this embarrassing ritual: 'Dear Muslim and Muslima, ablute as much as you want but wipe it dry afterward because unfortunately you fume and the water turns into steam and fungi like humid and warm areas and that is why they grow and cause you itching.' Some infidels say we should not have given them this medicine and the advice because without them Muslims would have not managed anything apart from continuous scratching and this would have kept the peace for everyone. But this thinking is obviously flawed. Muslims are fuming and getting fungal infections because of the irritating infidels and that is why the infidels are responsible for providing anti-fungal medication. As I am coming towards the end of this session, I expect that you are wondering why all this attention to ablution? It is very important, dear infidels. In the next visit, I will explore the practical measures arising from the issue of ablution, and how psychodialysis helps in ablution to reduce tension. I will discuss the necessity of introducing soap to the toilets of Mosques. It is a really big health hazard, for understandable reasons. Muslims think they have done everything to maintain the hygiene, but the kafirs have a point. Touching the bottom without using soap is not hygienic. The western government should know this, and help their Muslim brothers and sisters by providing soap in sufficient amounts – although Muslim Muallahs should not sell them on the black market. Such measures would help with sorting out some of the problems. Obviously, Allah did not demand soap in the Quran because for some reasons he did not know about soap. Allah is all knowing and wise, but (this but is alright) He is also a very busy guy. Secondly, among other things, I will propose that Muslims and Muslimas should use towels when they wipe their bottoms every time they ablute. This is to prevent the kafirs laughing at them when they scratch, particularly, now that towels are available. Allah would have, of course, introduced towels in the Quran but He must have thought that everywhere is as hot as Saudi Arabia, which dries any bottom no matter how wrinkly it is in a matter of seconds, without the help of air-dryers. I will also suggest making use of modern technology for ablution, for example dry cleaning, similar to the technology of some dry cleaning of cloths to save water. Dry cleaning can replace sand. So I will suggest a modification to the Aya 4.43, which says: 'If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again' (4.43). I would suggest instead: 'If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from toilets [My hermit friend told me that the word in the Arabic Quran for what the translator called 'offices of nature' is really embarrassing. However, why should you need to know everything?], or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves chemicals for dry cleaning, and rub therewith your faces and hands and bottom so you do not smell awful. For Allah doth blot out sins and smells and forgive again and again' (00001.00003, The Hypothelian Quran). Finally, for those who are interested in psychodialysing, here is an exercise for them.
Abomoslem Sardare Khorasan
--- On Mon, 1/19/09, mohamed radwan <ozo_smily@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: mohamed radwan <ozo_smily@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Change_with_the_light] Re: fuck you and your prophet mohammad
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Received: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:50 AM
Dear Sir,
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From: Derafsh Kaviyani <derafshk@gmail.com>
Subject: fuck you and your prophet mohammad
To: ozo_smily@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:32 PM
fuck you and your prophet mohammad
2009/1/11 mohamed radwan <ozo_smily@yahoo.com>
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Plzzzzzz Keep forwarding this e-mail. Let people know what happens there.
Por favor reenvia ese mail. El mundo debe saber que pasa alla.
أرجوك استمر في تمرير هذه الرسالة، اجعل العالم يعرف ماذا يحدث هنالك في فلسطين
And if you are not satisfied, now, with the truth the following pictures are war crimes as defined by the UN, The Hague and the Geneva Convention.
Using images of your enemy dead or alive (violation)
Human shields (violation)
Live Burial Torture (violation)
And as a last resort, Execution (violation)
These IDF soldiers have faces... I can clearly see them... Can't you? Why are they not being prosecuted? Because it is systematic process that is driven by the government designed to force the people of Palestine into exile so Israel can claim all the land and resources..
This where my American tax dollars are going, do you know where your tax dollars are at? TAKE THE TIME TO FIND THE TRUTH. So many lives depend on it. I, like so many Americans, am Caucasian, non-Arab, and religious. I can no longer sit back with good conscience and do nothing while my government is supporting the types of terrorist actions that we have condemned Muslim Fundamentalist for. Call your Congressman and Senator, send an email to the White House and demand that our government negotiate FAIRLY with both sides and bring a fair and just solution to Palestine and Israel .
(CRUELTY OF ISRAEL
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